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i am new here but i have to reply to this becuase yesterday walking my son home from school i got a panic attack and what triggered it was this girl was talking weird behind me, in a strange voice. PS im so glad that Pink Floyd doesnt set anything off for me since they are my favorite. But I have noticed the phone ringing sets me off also, anything weird does, out of place.
for 21 år siden 0 18 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
mizlibz: what you said about fear being reasonable-- i really need to hear that! my therapist acts like i'm not supposed to fear anything, or feel uncomfortable... but my life is uncomfortable... and i am afraid of alot of things because i know they happen... also, you talk about being afraid from your LSD days... i think i am still traumatized from my crstal meth days... it was TERRIFYING... and after i first quit (by OD'ing) it took effexor to stop me from freaking out everytime my heart pounded a little harder.... i thought i was going to have another heart attack... god, it is still w/ me! uck. i can't believe people slipped you LSD. that's such a rape. you had every right to be traumatized. my friends liked to push me to do more drugs that i was capable of handling, but they never out and out forced me to do them.
for 21 år siden 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hey Pan, You asked me what I have done about being triggered by stuff that reminds me of the LSD days. One thing I have done is talked about it with my therapist, which has really helped me because I was able to figure out that some of my fears were reasonable at the time they arose, so what I feel is not just some sort of crazy paranoia. I was in college in the 1960s, and people really did spike food and drinks with LSD without telling you, so my fear of tripping out involuntarily (and freaking out) was actually founded in some very real traumatic experiences. But what happened over the years was that the fear stuck with me even though the danger was no longer present. I guess that's where they get that saying that FEAR is often False Evidence Appearing Real. So anyway, by going through and identifying exactly where my fears originated, I was able to clearly see that I am not crazy, that my fears made sense when they first came up, and that what I was afraid of then is no longer a real danger to me. It sounds simple, but I needed help to prove it to myself by going through the process. In general, I find that the other things I talked about in reference to the old LSD days -- the bright lights and aisles full of stuff in supermarkets being way too much input for my nervous system -- tend to happen to me when I am tired, hungry, or stressed out. Knowing that helps me take care of myself better. When I get into a grocery store and start tripping like that, I try to remember that I am basically "out of gas" and I do what I need to take care of myself. You know, maybe buy some soup, go home, and watch a mindless movie or something. I try to get good rest. All of these things make a huge difference for me. Also, I quit caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, etc. a long time ago. I try to keep stimulants out of my life as much as possible ... I'm already wound tighter than a cheap watch!
for 21 år siden 0 18 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
it's funny but i think i'm the same w/ the music i cited as "triggering": i used to do alot of crystal meth and e back in the day, and techno reminds me of those days, too. i don't get a weird feeling, tho. i just want terribly to get high, something i haven't done in a long time. i think it's been so long that my brain doesn't even identify the feeling as the urge to get high, but feels the residual anxiety sharply. i have taken klonopin, atavin, imovane, xanax, effexor, and paxil for anxiety. right now i've been taking xanax, ativan, effexor, and paxil. i used to drink booze to stifle the panic attacks, but that quickly got out of hand. like pan i've quit alcohol and cigarettes... neither of which has made much difference (well, except to make me miserable and drive most of my friends away)... i exercise compulsively... so, i can't give you any suggestions, either... i take the xanax all day long, or else i get crazy hyper and anxious. to answer your question- all the benzos are addiction like booze... that means you need more and more to get the desired effect, and the hangover (which is actually withdrawal) is much the same as booze... sometimes i take so many pills that i puke the next day, until i can hold one down. don't get stuck like me. lol. then again i'm a drug addict, so maybe you could use them responsibility. have you tried an anti-depressant? i had pretty good luck on effexor the first few months, until i started getting crazy side effects and had to reduce the dose to non-therapuetic levels (hence the xanax and ativan)... i am supposed to start taking paxil this week. peace tai.
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Mizlizb- I so know what you're saying. Let me tell you, anything that reminds me of the LSD days totally weirds me out. I am so happy to hear someone else say thta because I thought that I was the only one. I can't watch CHarlie and the cho. factory or listen to stuff like Pink Floyd because of that very reason. Is that kind of how you are? ALso, the breathing thing...I am right there with the person that mentioned that. I always do the yawning thing! So, Liz you said you had this problem what did you do about it. It totally ****es me off...all my other symptoms are getting netter except that. SO, I finally gave in and started Klonopin...the difference is alot better. I only take .5 mg at night so there sre still sometimes when I have trouble. Does anyone have experience with this med? I know all the hoopla about addiction and da da da da da. But, I have traveled down spo many routes to kick this anxiety totally and nothing is getting rid of it totally. I exercise, stopped drinking and smoking, take vitamins and fish oil supplements, B;complex, etc. Any new suggestions?
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Kathy, The way I can try to distingush if I am actually "short of breath" or is it the symptom of anxiety, is to put my hand on my stomach. If you stomach rises and falls as you breath, you are truly getting air (oxygen). If your stomach is not rising and falling, and only your lung cavity is, that is anxiety, as our muscles are tightened, and we are not doing the correct breathing techinque, therefore you feel short of breath because of this, this I stress again is anxiety, you would truly only be short of breath, after example exerting yourself and having the panting feeling. I used to sometimes feel, I was breathing but not getting enough air, which would be identified as "yawning" type effect to gather as much air as possible. It was my anxiety.
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Totally totally know the deal on the weird triggers, especially music. I think I just get so hypersensitive and overstimulated that I can't filter out anything and some music can really add to the chaos. So can the lights and aisles filled with tons of merchandise in a store (especially a supermarket). It reminds me of the old LSD freakout days. I don't know the neuroscience behind it, but it's definitely TOO MUCH INPUT!
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music totally triggers me-- hard trance/house w/ a heavy 4/4 tempo above 120 b.p.m. pushes me right into either rage or panic, ditto on thrash metal & discordance. i don't know why, except that the rapid beat mimics my pounding, panicking heart. it's been a real issue lately, because my husband likes to play records in his sparetime and lately i just can't take it. i like r&b, hiphop, folk, jazz, swing. syncopation calms me and enervates me. have trouble breathing as well. since i haven't died yet, and there's no observable obstruction in my airway or lungs, i must surmise that i am suffering delusions. BUT IT FEELS SO REAL AND TERRIFYING! the heat seems to make it worse, as if i am choking on air that is thick enough to be tactile in my throat: like the tail of a beast i have inadvertantly swallowed. nothing seems to help except a cool bath or shower. valerian root helps w/ anxiety for me, w/ less of a hangover than ativan or the other benzos, but is sometimes not stop enough to help. i drink chamomile, mint, or rooibos tea at night to help me get to sleep. kava kava also helps, but it's recently been linked to liver damage... so use at own risk. it has been banned in canada, where i live, so i don't get to use it anymore. lavender can make a soothing compress. ginger root tea or bitters help calm a worry sick stomach. clove tea can knock you out pretty good, if it's strong enough. marijuana makes me anxious if i smoke too much, but sometimes one pull on a joint hits the spot just right, and can calm me down. i heard that st. john's wart can help w/ anxiety, but when i tried it, i hurled like a crazyfool, so no having that. peace. tai
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I have a comment and a question about weird triggers. I can totally relate to the 'weird trigger' thing. It may be something someone says, a movie involving some type of human suffering, a song, something I eat, etc. My question is, does anyone ever feel like they just can't breath? I'll be sitting wathcing a ball game on t.v., eating dinner, working, or whatever, not even thinking about anything panicy or otherwise and all of a sudden, I feel this overwhelming feeling of "I just can't get enough air." I am obviously breathing or I would probably keel over, but then again, AM I having shortness of breath? It doesn't happen at the same time every day, just throughout the day at different times. If I can make myself think of something else, it sometimes goes away. I have tried to question the breathlessness within myself by asking "Am I really having trouble breathing or is it just a FEELING?" Can anyone relate? It is so scary and it always brings on a panic attack. I have been researching herbal remedies for panic and wondered if anyone had any thought on this.. Any replies are appreciated.
for 21 år siden 0 7 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Yep, I am the same way! Years ago, I used to do drugs and that kind of music reminds me of those times, and then I'll start to get really panicky and anxious. You're not alone on this one!!!! Lisa

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