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Victoria, Upper chest breathing WILL trigger a panic attack. When you are upper chest breathing your chest will feel tight and your fight or flight response which causes a panic attack thinks your life is in danger. Klonopin never worked for me under any circumstances. I have had the best luck with xanax. I do however take paxil CR but it is only 12.5 mg. The way I understand it, is klonopin should be taken every day at the same time like other SSRI. Try researching that. Paxil put me into remission for over 7 years but I took it every day for about a year and a half. YES! I take xanax everytime I have a panic attack. I don't usually take as much as the DR would like me too, but I do take it. I take xanax everynight before I go to bed because I will have nocturnal panic attacks. When I was much younger, that was one of my first series of attacks. You get so you do not want to go to bed for fear you will have a panic attack and then of course you do. That is why a have a bedtime/bathtime ritual. I take my xanax and read then meditate and then put on my snuggly jamies and go to bed. If I don't go immediately to sleep, I put in a movie I have seen a 1000 times, like "Valley in the Clouds" and stay there until I fall asleep, sometimes I stay there all night. My new series of panic attacks are complicated by perimenopause. This really stinks because your symtoms overlap. I don't know what belongs to what condition. The paxil seems like too much most of the time except when I am premenstral and during my period. When I don't really need it, it tends to make me more anxious. I am thinking of going on just xanax as needed.
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Hi Dawn! I'm so glad I made you laugh...laughter is important, I agree 100%, re finding a way to laugh through a panic attack. Maybe if we just try smiling???? LOL!! I'm copying a portion of your text below....are you saying that upper chest/stress related breathing will trigger a panic attack, or the opposite?......and, do you always take medication when having a PA? I tend to not take medication.....perhaps that is not the right "tack" to take??? ....Upper chest/stress related breathing with trigger a panic attack by kicking in the fight or flight response. I use walking when I am having a PA. I fly out of the house and down the street! This is when I appreciate cool/cold temperatures because it seems to help me do a reality check and you can bet I did not leave the house without taking my xanax! I'm wondering how you sleep, or more accurately, falling asleep...I'm having a problem falling to sleep quickly...last night I laid in bed for about 1 hour and that is NOT good with my thoughts these days. I didn't want to take the Klonopin, because I was not having a PA, but anxious nonetheless. Any help would be appreciated. Oh, I did try to listen to my tape last night, but I was so anxious, it made me more anxious...listened to it the morning, and was fine ;D Take good care...glad you are here... Victoria
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Victoria, You made me laugh! I think we just discovered or were reminded how important it is to laugh at ourselves. It is pretty ridiculous when you think about it! It would be great if we could find a way to have a sense of humor through our panic attacks! Meditation is a tool you use to reach relaxation. When people meditate the goal is to clear your mind of all the noise going on in there. You do this by focusing your thoughts on one thing. Some people create a beautiful place in their minds to go to. I imagine a blank piece of paper. Every time my mind starts to wander I refocus on the blank piece of paper. Most people combine this with abdominal breathing. When you meditate regularly at say the same time and do the same thing every day it becomes very easy to slip into a meditative state. In the summer you can meditate while you walk just by focusing on the warmth of the sun on your skin while you walk and remember to breath. Upper chest/stress related breathing with trigger a panic attack by kicking in the fight or flight response. I use walking when I am having a PA. I fly out of the house and down the street! This is when I appreciate cool/cold temperatures because it seems to help me do a reality check and you can bet I did not leave the house without taking my xanax! Dawn
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Hello Dawn!!! I'm so glad you "saw" my post and answered - it really is making me smile ;D (in spite of my anxious feelings tonight) I just learned about reading too much of the emails, I began to get anxious, ESPECIALLY about the medication. I have the same "challenge" you do with medication, even over the counter!! But I continue to work on it. And YES, I KNOW the thoughts re the one in a zillion...of course, I will be the one!!! LOL!! NOT dumb, I DO understand!! I was reading also about others attacks, and began to get very nervous and had to stop for fear I'd "have" the same thing, if that makes sense.... Re goofy symptom list - all I know is when I have an attack, or even what I am having lately, negative thoughts, I IMMEDIATELY have to use the toilet!! I haven't seen anyone write about that, but for me that's it...stomach gets tight, and I'm off and running - literally! LOL!!! Dawn, is meditating the same as relaxation? Do you use a tape? I find using a tape easier than "doing it myself". I did learn today, that the depth of my breath is definitely impacted by level of stress. I could not take a deep breath, but midway through the tape, I could take a full breath! Do you do breathing exercises everyday?? Does it help, Dawn? Looking forward to hearing back....Ken, can't help too much with breathing as I'm just learning myself, but I believe it can and does help.... Victoria
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Hi Everyone! Victoria, I find that it is important to keep up with current research on PA and other anxiety disorders. Keeping up with the new treatments and causes is important. I find that spending too much time on some of these support groups does not help if they spend too much time comiserating instead of problem solving. It is nice to be in touch with other people who understand what you are going through. I personally can not spend a lot of time reading about the meds and their side effects. I gives me anxiety and then I don't want to try new meds even it if would help me because I focus on the 1 in ten zillion that have the one side effect that will kill me. Dumb, I know, but true. I also can't spend a lot of time reading about every one elses attacks, sometimes I want to have one too, and it is not even me! I would like to see a more complete list of the other 200 symtoms you can have besides the 5 or 6 on the standard list. Like gagging, and itching and so on. I feel better knowing what other symtoms are possible. Ken, practicing adominal breathing is especially hard for panic attack sufferers because we are scared and rightly so, because one of the most common symtoms of panic is feeling like you can't breath. I know your a guy, but, when I had my children they taught us how to separate or minds from out bodies during the pain and discomfort. I find meditating on something else while breathing is easier than focusing on the breathing. I have also found laying on my back on the floor or in the tub with my hand on my stomach while I am meditating helps me to remember to use my stomach. When I was first in counseling, my counsler suggested a red dot here and there around the house and in the car to remind me to breath from my stomach helped alot. I find practicing a red lights is a fun and easy way to relax and remember to breath. So what kind a goofy symtoms does anyone have out there that are not on the "standard symtom list"?
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I recently took a course called Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction. I found it to be helpful, but have a bit of a problem with the breathing techniques. How would one be able to be comfortable with breathing to relax, but not manipulate the breath in any way? Your advice would be most appreciated. Thanks
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Hello Dawn! I just joined the "center" today and am reading posts. I hope you see my reply, as your post was written in September. I was particularly "struck" with your post below: "...I try to stay informed, but draw the line at too much imput. I find that knowledge can empower you to live with this disorder. However, there is some information that just plays into your fears so you need to know where to draw the line...." I have found this to be VERY true for me! Knowledge can, and does empower...but, you are SO correct, that some info plays into one's fears.... How do you know where to draw the line? Sometimes it's a blur ;D Thanks for this bit of information...I'm going to write it down an put it where I can see it :D Victoria
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I take a bubble bath every night with the scent of english lavender which I find relaxing. I usually read an inspirational book after I relax in the tub and practice abdominal breathing. I listen to new age music(CDs I only use for this meditation), this makes it easier to slip into a relaxed state because of the routine. I also drink a bottle of water while I am in the tub. I also find walking a great way to burn off the extra adrenalin when I am having anxiety problems that I know will lead to panic. I try to concentrate on my breathing and a steady pace. This takes your mind off your stinking thinking that leads to the panic attack. When my kids were little I would take these walks with a kid by each hand and listen to their happy chatter to distract me until the attack was over. I also think venues such as this one are a great help! I wish they had it when I first started having panic attacks. I try to stay informed, but draw the line at too much imput. I find that knowledge can empower you to live with this disorder. However, there is some information that just plays into your fears so you need to know where to draw the line.
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So any of you practice deep breathing on a regular basis as a matter of routine? I think others might benefit from knowing what good habits you've developed and practice to relax. Thanks.

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