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Teebs,
 
I am not sure how to answer being that I am kind of new to this program.  But I found that when I was walking in a large crowd that after about 30 min. I sat down for a few minutes and took something out of my purse and read it and let myself relax for a few minutes, then I got up and did another 30 minutes of my exposure till I was calm and not bothered by the crowd any more.  I do the reverse when I am visiting with people sometimes I excuse myself and go out side for a few minutes walk to my car or what ever and come back and resume the visit.  Anticipatory fear well that is a tuff one for me. I find if I take it in small steps I do better.  Like try to focus only one thing at a time. 1. Get dressed and ready to leave       2.Get into the car  3. drive to location  4. get out of car  5. Take a deep breath and release it. 6. Than go in to face the lions.  It may take me all day to leave, sometimes I don't make it but I keep  on trying .  I have not been able to make any plans very far into the future.   I do not know if this helps you or not.  I am sure some of the members with more experience can help you more than I can.  Ashleys, Ladybirds and Davit's ideas are excellent and I am going to give them a try myself.
 
Good luck on your journey
 
Red
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Hi Teebs.

How are your coping skills? What do you do to relax when the panic starts to build? Do you do box breathing? How about distracting? You have to do exposure to climatize to situations that bother you but if you don't have tools in place to cope then all your exposures will be unbearable. You have to have coping tools in place first before you can strengthen them by exposure. What do you do to handle mild anxiety? Running away doesn't count, you can't reinforce that one. Do you look out a window or look at the floor? Do you hide in the washroom? These work but they aren't coping tools, they are escaping tools. That is OK you can use them but what you want to do is tell yourself that "you are OK." " Other people can do this so, so can you." Positive thought over and over.  So you do the exposure and use the positive thoughts and stick it out till you hit some where between 3 and 5 out of 10 and then throw in which ever escaping tool works to bring it down to 1 or less again and then continue the exposure. You can go past 5 only if you are 100% sure that it won't make it impossible to continue the exposure. You don't want to increase the fear of the situation and breed fear of the fear. Start small. Too many people want to jump in with both feet. You have to be able to swim before you go into the deep end.

I hope this made sense to you.
Davit.
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Hi Teebs
 
I understand where your coming from its like you don't know which bit to deal with first.  The anticipatory used to be the worst for me as by the time the situation or event came up I was at 90-100 before I even left the house.  I started taking even the approach in small steps.  I would have an event or situation coming up and I would tell myself I will take it a step at a time before even getting to the event.  I would congratulate myself just getting in the car , then driving down the road, then getting to the event etc. It took time but even telling myself whatever happens I will do the best I can at this moment in time took alot of the pressure off.  I know it doesn't help in situations you can't get out of but anticipatory thoughts feed the anxiety like rocket fuel so when you feel them gathering momentum try to challenge them as desribed at the start of the programme then you will be in a better postion to deal with the exposure.  Hope this helps.
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Teebs,
 
These are all very good questions.  I wish I had the answers to all of them but unfortunately I don't.  I will do my best  to discuss your questions and hopefully we can gain some clarity.  If you speak to a therapist or counselor I recommend printing off these questions and discussing them with him/her as well.
 
The fear of fear certianly is a common concern.  It is losing or managing that fear that is what we are trying to achieve.  If you feel scared what is the worst that will happen? You will feel scared. It is a biological occurance in your body.  Your heart rate will increase, your muscles may tighten, etc., etc.  I know this is very easy to say but getting to the point where you can accept this fear may help in letting go of it. The more you push yourself the easier it will come and the more confident you will be. 
 
Anticipatory anxiety can cause a lot of stress as well.  I wish there was a quick solution I can offer you.  But you are right the more you work at it the easier it will become to manage this anxiety.  It takes time and a lot of work.
 
Keeping a symptom tracker can certainly help you identify unknown triggers.  Panic may seem to come out of the blue but diet, overall stress level and a number of other factors may affect an individual.
 
In regards to going to events, this is a tough one.  Try to stick to the plan in the program.  Leaving before an event ends and slowly pushing yourself to stay longer at each event may also be an option.  Possibly taking breaks like going for a walk?
 
Members, please share your thoughts.  These are tough questions and your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
 
 
 

 
 
Ashley, Health Educator
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Teebs 

I want to answer this but I have an apointment with My therapist so I will get back to you.

Davit.
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I have read about exposure therapy before and just completed the week four lesson. It describes everything very well, but I'm still left with some of the same questions I've always had about working with anxiety through exposure. If anyone can offer any insights that would be great.
 
1. I understand how panic works and how my body is reacting during a panic attack, thus I'm not scared during a panic attack that some harm will actually come to me. Instead, I just HATE feeling that way, and the vast majority of my fear is centered around my "fear of fear", or fear of having a panic attack. When working with exposure, you're inducing anxiety in a sense, and while I understand you don't want to put yourself in a situation that will result in a fear rating of 90-100, if I go somewhere and feel really anxious (even up to a 60-80) I feel like my fears of feeling fearful are coming true, reinforcing my "fear of fear". Does that make sense? I guess you are just supposed to witness that your fear level will come down, but when my biggest fear is feeling miserable, and I go into a situation and feel miserable (even if I'm slightly less miserable at the end) I feel like my fears are reinforced. How do I get around this?
 
2. As I already mentioned, most of my fear is "fear of fear", and so I have a lot of anticipatory anxiety. How do you use exposure to deal with anticipatory anxiety? I understand that if you go through exposure and realize there is less to be afraid of, your anticipatory anxiety will eventually go down, but is there any way to address this more head on? For instance, if I develop an exposure plan for the next few weeks, my overall anxiety level will be much higher 24/7 thinking about all the challenges I'm going to be putting myself through.
 
 3. Similarly, what about when a decent number of your panic attacks occur "out of the blue" rather than in a particular situation....how do you work with exposure in this case? It's hard to nail down a particular fear that's triggering attacks in these cases, so it's impossible to come up with any exposure plan.
 
 4. Finally, I have a specific question about developing an exposure plan for my fear of going to events such as plays and sporting events. Often when I do these activities I feel fine for much of the event, and my anxiety increases as the event goes on until I find it difficult to stay there near the end. Often my anxiety isn't at its peak until towards the end of an event, so even if I get myself to stay in the situation and endure it hoping the anxiety will eventually go down a notch, the event often ends first - so I get to leave, and of course immediately feel better, so I feel like my fear is being reinforced. How do I do exposure work when my anxiety increases the longer I'm in a situation, but I don't have control over how long the event lasts?
 
 I got a little long-winded there, but it's helpful even just to put my concerns into words, so thanks for reading, and any thoughts you have will be much appreciated.

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