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I've been thinking about this question a lot lately also. I think my problem is also a control issue. I always have to be in control of everything and the things I panic about are things I can't control - health, death, other people's reactions. However, I've also wondered if another payoff is possibly because the panic / anxiety gives you drama, which makes you different, which sickly enough makes you feel more intereting or something. I'm not really sure how to explain that. Does that make sense? Quite frankly, I'm ashamed that there is a part of me that admits that.
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That's really interesting. I also never got drunk, didn't do drugs and always tried to limit medication to the absolute minimum. So it's a control issue? I too was thinking about the pay-off question and had the following thoughts: - I never wanted to ask anyone for help but the panic attacks gave me a "right" to ask - Panic attacks gave me an "excuse" for not doing things that I felt I had to do but didn't want to
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This is a loaded question. It assumes we choose to suffer. The answer depends on whether or not you fall into the camp that says panic disorder is a physical problem brought on by a chemical imbalance or if you believe it's something we can control by changing our thinking. I guess I fall somewhere in the middle. I just know that if I had just had a panic attack, I'd probably want to smack any person that asked me "So what was your payoff?" :p In my opinion, with panic disorder there is no payoff compared to all that you lose by having it. Maybe Dr. Phil's question was meant to be applied to behaviors rather than disorders.
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thanks for your response. I thought it was a interesting question too ;) Wow, we really do have a lot in common. I've been drunk ONCE, on my 18th birthday. Medications I've taken besides antibiotics: Advil. Too scared to even take cold medication. Why- because I like to be in control of my body at all times. Not to sound like a real typical housewife here, but another time I heard Dr.Phil say to someone who was fearful of bad things happening to them,"Since when were you put in charge of the universe? Why are worrying about things that are not in your control?" This is true, but hard to accept. Thanks for your reply, it was very insightful!
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I've been thinking about this one since you posted it, because I think it's an interesting question. I generally agree with Dr. Phil on this one - with the exception of depression, I don't think people choose or control depression. But anxiety I do think maybe he has a point in terms of "payback". Here's my take on it, at least for me personally: I need to be and always have been, IN CONTROL. I almost never as a youth and certainly never will now get drunk, because it makes me feel out of control. I tried pot a few times in my late teens, but couldn't stand being out of control. I fear meds incase they make me - you guessed it, out of control!! I have struggled thru a difficult childhood of poverty, a totally dependent mother, putting myself thru university, making a good life for my kids, all of which required total dedication and control. So - I think I have developed health anxiety - not intentionally, but unintentionally - because it keeps me in control (I know this sounds backwards, and it is). By watching acutely for symptoms, googling them, researching them, checking with doctors, assuming the worst, I am essentially trying to stay in control of the most 'important' factor in life - death. If I make sure every headache and cough and leg pain is analyzed and checked over and over, death will not win. I will find the illness first, get cured, and beat death at it's own game. My fear of death leads me to try and control it, the same way I have controlled all the other factors in my life. So the payback is control. Of course, the irony is, once you fall down that slippery slope into a full blown anxiety disorder, you are no longer in control of anything (or at least you feel you are not). That's my psychoanalysis for the day!! Thanks for the interesting question!
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Not a huge Dr. Phil fan but just from doing housework while his shows on and hearing about his books from other shows (ie Larry King) I think the problem of health anxiety could possibly fall under "What's your payoff?" Those familiar with him, know what I'm talking about. EVERY behavior according to him has a payoff from affairs, abuse to eating disorders. My husband who is a Dr. Phil fan and also has no concept of how I feel/ think insists that if my desire to stop these horrible thoughts were stronger than my desire to not have them, the first would win out. I feel like my brain is hard wired this way, and obviously have a great desire to end my own personal torment!:mad: Any ideas/comments on this one??

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