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for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 2101

You're most welcome and yes i know how it is during a panic attack i keep thinking the same kind of thoughts. Anyway, glad to see you are feeling better then the other day :) As for the tv reference it really does ring a beel but i can't quite place it... Anyway, take care! -Diva

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 15

Hi again Diva, No way was I offended. Just wanted to make sure you knew this was the first time in 13 years I actually "had it checked" by a cardiologist. I had a reading the other day by the way, (don't know if you are into things "psychic") by this guy who is great and he said, my heart is fine. I didn't even really ask, just told him I was checking it AND I know they should not say stuff like that, so again, I didn't ask, but he said it like three times as he talked about my journey and the "meaning" of being in the place again. So, I am still going...but not at all nervous. My "soul" told me it was fine...BUT you know how it is during panic attack! Every single time...I become Fred Sanford. (Remember that show?) "Here I come Elizabeth...it's the big one..." HA!... Anyway, no worries, I do not offend easily. Thanks for caring and for your thoughts. :-)

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 2101

Hiya Bonnie! I am really glad to see you've got your rawr back about all of this. It is great to see you so optimistic and up to the task :) I am really glad you are having a better day and i wish you many more. As for the heart check thing i wasn't trying to imply you have it checked often or to insult you, i was just saying that having it checked if it makes you feel better is a good idea in my book. But if that offended you in anyway i am sorry. Anyway, once again glad to see you've got some fight back in you. You go girl you can do this! -Diva

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 15

Thanks for the reply Diva. Yesterday was a much better day. As Wynona Judd once told Oprah..."I may not be where I want to be today, but I sure as hell am not where I was yesterday." Doing it without meds this time (besides the occasional ativan), it is taking longer, but the healing/growing IS happening. Totally worth the struggle, to know I will end up on the other side. Already feel 4/5ths of the way there. This really feels like the tail end, where the "ego" is trying to really TERRIFY me into giving up...NOT!

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 15

Hi Diva, Yup. I "lived through it." HA. And about the "heart" check. I actually don't have it checked regularly (hate doc appt's as I am sure many here do...) I had a full check 13 years ago when I had the first panic attacks again after NOT for ten years. All was fine. Then three years ago, when "it" was back and I ended up in the emergency SURE it was NOT panic (it was) I had an EKG and a lung x-ray...you know cause I "couldn't breathe?" Then just last year due to "palpitations" (don't have those anmore...) the doc did an EKG while I was there for something unrelated...it was fine. So, just because it has really been 13 years since I have seen a cardiologist? Gonna do it. I KNOW for a fact that when I get that clean bill of health? I will STOP acting and feeling like "Fred Sanford" from Sanford And Son..."Here I come Elizabeth...this is it...it's the big one!" HA! I really need that validation and I know I will then be able to say, "Ok, here I go again...it's nothing..." I want to recommend a book to anyone interested. Have you heard of EFT? Well you "can" go to the site by Gary Craig, but to be honest? "His way/twist on it?" Never really helped me. But a book called Instant Emotional Healing by Lambrou and Pratt has helped tremedously WHEN I remember to do the tapping sequences. So much so that yesterday, ONCE again, I pulled it out when I woke up SOOOOOOO anxious and sure it was going to be a hellish day. After about 15-20 minutes or so of tapping? (You tap certain places on your body, it supposedly disturbs the energy...) I SWEAR...and this is not the firs time. I was FINE and ever better than fine! Felt optimistic, happy,jumped in the shower and had a great day. It DOES work that well. Again, IF you do it.

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 8760

Bonnie, Sorry to hear you had a rough day! Keep working through the program. Session three in particular, focuses on helping you challenge anxious thoughts such as the ones you described. If you've already completed this session, it may be helpful to go back and review the concepts. Diva also gave you a great suggestion: distractions & deep breathing can also be helpful in getting the time to go by faster. Hope this helps. Danielle ____________________ The PC Support Team

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 2101

Hiya Bonnie! I am sorry to hear that you had such a rough day. Days like this can really suck and with all the sinuses and tooth thing the days before that you must be pretty tired. Well i hope you did manage to take another nap and relax a bit. But you know, you are right when you say it is panic. But you know what, if having your heart checked out on a regular basis makes you feel better then go for it! I think if it helps that is what matters :) I keep having my doctor check a bunch of stuff with me too lol. Anyway, my heart goes out to you, i know days like this are really long and tiring. All i can suggest to you is what has worked in the past for me. Deap slow breathing to relax the body and well distraction lol. If you keep your mind to busy to think about being scared it works wonders. I usually pick up a good book from onr of my favorite authors. At first i have trouble focusing but eventually i get really into the book and hours go by without me noticing. Distraction works wonders. Sometimes i will watch a really good movie or T.v. Sometimes i draw or do some coloring lol Anyway, you get what i mean, anything that makes you happy and distracts you is good. It should help you get through the days till you have your appointment. Another thing that helps is to challenge your anxious thoughts as they come. Writting a journal is good too. And what you did today works wonders too. Coming on here and letting it out helps :) Anyway, hope this helps a bit and keep us posted on how you are doing :) -Diva

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 15

Well, I am in the chat room...just waiting and figure I will just talk/type, with the hope that it will help. Without all my history for now...what happened today is...after a day of 1 mg of Ativan to get to a dental appointment yesterday for an emergency root canal...and after a weekend of pain with that tooth AND my sinuses, (doc called in Antibiotics on Sunday...) I thought I was "all good." Sinuses on the mend, tooth no longer hurts...so I laid down for a nap. Woke up with upper back pain, (must admit I wasn't too comfy when I laid down, but stayed that way anyway...must have pulled back muscles?) after just about a half hour. Since I am DONE worrying about my heart, yesterday I made an appointment FINALLY with a cardiologist. I did this 12 years ago when I was this bad and all checked out well. It was sooooooooooooo good to get that "strong heart" report. It's like panic is no longer that scary. If you are one who always thinks "heart?" It is so helpful when that is ruled out. Well, since that appointment is a week away, naturally back pain, neck stiffness, etc just now...then nausea, bowels grumbling, hot flash, etc. I have to fight the urge to call my husband at work to say, "PLEASE COME HOME. I really DO need to go to the emergency." I haven't gone for two years now...where again heart checked out fine. Also had an EKG just last year in my docs office. I have learned though that EKG's are not the only or best way to rule out heart trouble... So................................yup...just panic. How do I know? Because "spewing" this out into outer space has helped. It's the "don't bother anyone again...you aren't dying..." but sure feels as if I might thing that makes it 10 times worse... Wish me luck. Six days until I meet the cardiologist. I wish they had something earlier but they didn't. So, one more week of this "I am SURE my heart is messed up" stuff... I hate this and get so tired...of hating myself... Thanks for listening...might try to nap again. The antibiotics are making me tired and I have about 8 more days of those.

for 17 år siden 0 +0 / -0 15

Hi, I am new, panicking and wondered if anyone wants to chat? I am in the IM room thing. I just need a hand to hold onto for a few minutes... :-(

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