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Hi Wise Ones...
 
Always so much insight found within your writings..
 
I too denied it when it was happening to me as well... Anything but this.. I mean I was the strong one, the "perfect" one...truly though I was anything but..that's a whole other story...lol
 
For me the epiphanies were small also.. and often unnoticed until a day would come and in the middle of an experience or emotion I would realize "wow look at me"... are "wow, I can't believe I'm doing this again"...  I love how you called them Whispers of angel wings... I think that's beautiful..
 
Once I released the anger and stopped asking why me and started saying why not me - my real journey began.  Although it hasn't always been pleasant or easy - it has changed my life in so many remarkable ways.  It made me the mom I am..the wife I am... the friend I am... and all the other great things that make up me.    I still have work to do and I will always continue on working on making the world a little bit better by giving back but I don't regret a moment of this... All things happen for a reason..and in the end I ended up having all of you to offer me advice and guide me when I feel lost...
 
Thanks for the privilege.
 
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Diva:  Yea, that's what I found, there is no big bang that will create a whole new world for me.  But really, learning to appreciate the little things is exactly what I need to do, so maybe we set ourselves up for this very thought pattern, unconsciously.  Like we know it's what's best for us deep inside.  Strange how deep the mind works.  Follow your instincts!
 
Dark:  Precisely!  I learned that pattern back in high school, but I've been trying to remember it for some time now.  I've been stuck in my position for so long, I bounced between anger, denial and depression much longer then I needed to.  Now that the mindset is changing, I know what to do, and am applying all that energy I used with the above emotions towards fighting this.  I'm almost curious how things will turn out once I feel content, and how my path will change at that point.  Tell you one thing, I'll accept it much quicker this time around.
 
Thanks Gene and Sarah
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Jhori,   What a great post! Thank you for sharing your experience with other members.     Sarah, Health Educator
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Hey Dark
 
Yet again you add more pearls of wisdom.
 
And Joe. Beautiful. Thanks.
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Beautiful Jhori.  And I just love flattery!
 
What you say is very true.  The stages of accepting panic are similar, for me, to accepting grief. 

Denial. Anger. Bargaining. Depression. Acceptance.
 
When I had my first panic attack, I couldn't believe it.  I went to the hospital and was utterly defiant I was suffering some sort of heart malfunction.  I had more panic attacks.  I was so angry at myself.  I couldn't believe that it was happening to me.  I thought of myself as mentally strong - how could I suffer from panic?!
 
Then the bargaining.  "I'll change!".  I quit two of my three jobs and thought "OK, I've sorted the problem".  Less stress = no more panic attacks.  How wrong I was.
 
6 months of 10+ panic attacks per day.  Agoraphobia. Depression.  Hating myself and the world.  Eventually, I came to accept my panic attacks.  I accepted that it wasn't necessarily all the work I was taking on - but actually, how I reacted to that work.  How I reacted to life.  I was so highly strung and addicted to abusing my body through stress.
 
I managed to break the bonds, only by accepting anxiety - and accepting help.

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Hello Joe,
 
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Thank you. IT is a beautiful post and so insightful I love how you said nothing came, it is your attitude that changed. Very profound. Oh and how you have to be willing not just ready. So profoundly true. I find your post very insightful (yes repeatingmyself lol) and I thank you (repeating again ).
 
I find that for me it was kind of the same. For a long time I was in the utmost misery. I was waiting for that moment that would change my life. A big giant Aha moment!  But nothing came.
 
My transformation came one little moment at a time. No big epiphanies, just tons of little ones. Most of my moments came quietly on the whispers of angels wings. Little graces whipered in my ears. Little shifts in consciousness and attitude. But all those little thiings became of big thing that I call my recovery.
 
But as Joe said, those moments came not when I was ready, they came when I was willing.
 
So well done Joe, well done for the wonderful post and thank you.
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I miss Dark's epiphanies that he used to bring around from time to time.  So I'm adding one to the mix, which in no way compares to how good his were, but maybe someone will get something out of it: 
 
When I was at my worst, suffering from panic attacks, anxiety and agoraphobia...I would hear people talk about how someone said this or that, and how it changed their life.  Usually after hearing that one thing, I used to wonder...what's my one thing?  What will I hear that will answer my problems and make my fields plush with green grass again?
 
The answer?  Nothing came.  Nothing made me go "Wow, that's what I've been waiting to hear without knowing it". 
 
The truth is, my attitude changed.  I started by just looking for options I had, not necessarily planning to really explore any of them more then a website could.  I eventually reached a point where I thought to myself: I'm not getting better, I may get worse but I don't see how worse can be any worse then right now, and if worse really is worse then...maybe I should get help.  I don't want to be like this anymore.
 
With going through the program here, going to a counselor and meeting and conversing with the perfect mix of intelligence, humbleness, kindness, and all of the above that goes around this board, I found something that works.  Something that helped show me there IS a light in all this darkness, and it's up to me to replicate this into my world.
 
Sounds like a lot, but really it's much easier then it seems.  The only time it becomes hard, is when depression or anxiety hit.  In those times I remind myself it's temporary, "This too shall pass" I think someone wonderful said on this board.  Funny enough that meant nothing 2 weeks ago, until I realized the PA's are temporary.  And the anxiety can be controlled.  With a little self discipline, help from the coping techniques this wonderful program provides, and maybe a reminder from people who care, and just hoping for hopes sake.
 
My point of all this rambling, is that I didn't get better until I was willing to accept help.  I already accepted something was wrong, but my own insecurities and doubts kept me from going anywhere with this.  So I started with what I could, searching for answers and options related to my condition.  Then from there, took the big bold step into interaction...the rest is history.
 
Now, I don't care as much about PA's.  If they happen, while I'm in public or private, so be it.  Who cares what other people think.  So long as I don't hurt or demean them for no reason, then I'm alright with it.  The person calling you crazy has doubts about themselves, or are ignorant and petty...those who don't, understand your situation or at least know something is up and it isn't about them, and take no offense.  And if I did do something wrong, then I make it known to them that I didn't mean for it, by apologizing.  Then I move on. 
 
It's pretty liberating.  But understand, it won't happen when you're ready to face what you fear the most, it will only happen when you're willing to face it.

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