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Missed this post ~m.
 
So happy to read it though! Congrats



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Thanks Sonia... your encouragement is appreciated. 
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~m,

Glad to learn that the meeting went well and that you're feeling hopeful!

Please keep us posted!

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Thank you for the good thoughts and positive energy.  Our meeting went exceptionally well.  Dh seemed ready and willing to talk... he liked the counselor right away (miracle!) ... looks like insurance will pay a portion of the fee and we both left feeling better about each other and life in general.  Nothing resolved, of course, but beginning to address some festering relationship issues gave us both a feeling of hope and gentleness toward each other.  I am looking forward to our next appointment.  May have to forgo that pity party... don't feel the need anymore.  Hope is a wonderful thing to hold onto. 
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Hi ~m,
 
If a pity party is what you need that is completely ok. You work on it whenever you are ready.
 
Couples counseling sounds like a great opportunity! But it can certainly be scary. If you are a mess today, be a mess. Don't be anything you are not with the counselor. Faking it won't get you anywhere in counseling. Be yourself and be open to it. When it comes to counseling (as with CBT) you get out of it what you put into it. Just be your self and it will go fine.
 
Interested to hear how it goes! Good luck today. I will be thinking of you and sending you positive energy.
 
 


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Well..... a first step would probably be to put down the alcohol and cigarettes as those are old coping mechanisms which I know I can do with out.  I may not want to do without them right now... but I know I can if I'm clear about my intention.  As for when will I take this step... honestly?  I feel a need for a nice pity party and will likely take the weekend to so indulge.  I'll feel like cr*p by Monday and have the motivation to get focused and back on track.
 
It all depends on how today goes... dh and I have our first meeting with a couples counselor this afternoon and I'm a mess, but determined to follow through.   
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Hi Ocean and ~m,
 
I'm sorry you two are unmotivated. Days like this can be normal when managing depression, painful but normal. They can be helpful as they push us to focus on areas that still need some work. 
 
It sounds like alcohol is coming up for both of you. First of all, alcohol is a depressant and if you are depressed you should be avoiding alcohol. Although at the time it may feel like it makes things better it is actually very counter productive.  Until you stay away from alcohol for awhile it is hard to really grasp how much impact it can make to your mood. Controling the alcohol is important but so is continuing to work on the depression alongside abstaining from alcohol. You may not want to hear that but it is the truth. An important part of limiting the alcohol is finding alternative coping strategies. What are other ways you could cope? Finding new tools will be a huge step in moving forward.
 
Remember, when it comes to depression the action has to come before the motivation. The motivation will eventually follow when you start to feel better. It is incredibly hard but I know you can do it.  What could be a first step? When are you willing to start?
 

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Ocean, thank you for re-opening this topic.  This is so similar to what I am dealing with right now.  My spouse is focused on the alcohol use, except he thinks everything would be ok if I would just start drinking again.  I've fought a long, hard battle to get free of the addiction but am weakening as he gets frustrated with me sober.  It was easier and he was happier when I drank ... two things adored by any really good, depressive, co-dependent addict.  Your description of the numb + pain is so accurate.  I'm really feeling lost.  Have started smoking again... so i'm backward sliding pretty fast.  The feeling of absolute insult is one I share but don't know how to verbalize... thank you for doing so.  also feeling sad and unmotivated.  i was looking forward to a summer free of stress and now that's gone.  I didn't see this coming
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Brightsunnyday. your first sentence really resonated with me. I feel like I am in a similar position. 
 
One thing that has become absolutely clear to me over the years, that only those people who have experienced depression (or at least lived compassionately with a family member who has) just cannot figure it out in their own mind. No-one can know how depression is both numbing and, at the same time, oh so painful. Pain. It's pain.
 
No-one can know what lengths a depressed person might go to to have just a little bit of relief. Not even looking for long-term relief, but just looking for whatever relief you can muster to give you a break from this paralyzing disease. I have friends who are physically paralysed, and when they describe their frustration at understanding everything about the world around them but yet not being able to interact or engage in that world, it sounds awfully similar to the feelings I have.
 
Ive done some good things to help depression, and some bad things. The good part is that I now practice mindfulness. That's about living in the present, and the release from having to worry about anything else is beautiful! My bad strategy is alcohol. It helps me feel like everything is OK and everyone is happy.
 
My difficulty is that my spouse is absolutely focused on the alcohol. I keep telling him that the alcohol is a response to something more serious. But he just can't see that. He thinks that if the alcohol is controlled, everything will be OK again.
 
I can't tell you how insulted that makes me feel. If I stop drinking, but nothing else in my life changes, I can't see how things will ever be better for me. As you can tell, I'm feeling very sad tonight. And very unmotivated.
 
Sorry Folks. 
 
 
 
 
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I do believe also that communication is the 'key' but what if the partner can't communicate with you? He is sure that I am the problem and he is tired of me not doing as he says to solve my problem. I took us to a marriage counsellor who said that I am doing what anyone would do and he needs to understand my point of view and he stormed out calling the psychologist an idiot. He is angry at me now for taking him there. Talking to him just makes him angrier.
How do I communicate?%

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