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This is an amazing thread. I have never been an agressive person, but since my quit it is like small things about the way people treat me makes me so angry. I think I know that I deserve to be treated a certain way and having this extra self esteem causes me to expect people to treat me that way. Or maybe the extra agression is just a product of the anxiety of not smoking? I don't know, but I can't say its a good thing; Now when I jog, I expect people walking to move out of my way and if they don't I get unnecessarily angry... I don't really know how to cope, and I am afraid I am going to end up coming to work with a shiner!!!!LOL happy quitting N.O.P.E K [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 10/9/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 43 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 350 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $148.35 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 2 [B]Hrs:[/B] 20 [B]Mins:[/B] 15 [B]Seconds:[/B] 39
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I watched The American Cancer Society's "Freshstart":21 days to stop smoking video. They had a segment on there talking about self esteem and how smoking destroys self esteem. People who stop smoking self-esteem returns. Perhaps anger and self-esteem go hand in hand. Perhaps at some point we decide our opinion counts for something and speak up, and defend our decisions, and stand up for ourselves. It's not really anger its you, you are coming out, the nicodemon is dying and you are coming to the surface. It's new, and controlling it is difficult and emotional. Perhaps this is one of the many strengths you are gaining. My self-esteem has been destroyed, and I've always let the other person win. I'm sick of that too, add that one to my list of reasons "why". I want to get mad. I want to get really really really mad. I'm just not there yet. :| [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 9/14/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 15 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 232 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $52.5 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 4 [B]Mins:[/B] 40 [B]Seconds:[/B] 6
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I used to get stressed if I couldn't make everybody happy. Unfortunately (or fortunately) it is not possible to make everybody happy all of the time. I have finally learned that I can disagree with a person without being angry with them. Having said that, I still have difficulty with certain types of people because SOME people ARE difficult. I keep having to remind myself that I can only do the best I can. If they aren't happy, it's their problem. Windy [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 9/11/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 18 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 377 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $90 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 18 [B]Mins:[/B] 56 [B]Seconds:[/B] 14
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Assertiveness is a skill that I have only started learning in probably the last 5 years. I grew up with a mother who never lost her temper and often said "If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all". My Dad, on the other hand, blew his stack regularly. Not surprisingly, I spent most of my adult life holding in grudges, slights, etc until I would BLOW. Then I would be sooo ashamed of my loss of self-control. I try very hard not to deal with situations when I am really angry because I don't usually deal with it very well. However, I don't give in. I just say "Well, I guess we all have different opinions" or "I'll have to think about that". I rant and rave to my coworkers over minor situations. However, my "best" tool is my "MAD" letters. I have a great boss soooooo when I am really mad, I write EXACTLY what I think and how I feel then I e-mail it to my boss indicating that this is my "MAD" letter and that I will write my assertive letter and/or do problem-solving later. By the next day, I usually feel much better. Once I have got the "MAD" out of my system, I can usually go back and deal with it assertively. Unfortunately, I have not learned how to be assertive in my personal life (with family, friends and even hubby). (Perhaps because it is not so easy to remove myself from the situation when I am angry or because of stronger emotions getting in my way) I think I would be a MUCH healthier person if I could learn to be assertive with the people that I love. Having said all that, right now while I am quitting smoking ALL BETS ARE OFF and I reserve the RIGHT to be totally IRRATIONAL and MAD whenever I want. Windy [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 9/11/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 17 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 358 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $85 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 16 [B]Mins:[/B] 49 [B]Seconds:[/B] 2
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I am a compromiser. I will look at both sides of things before I jump. I am a free spirit and usually look at things objectively. I do not let anyone walk all over me. So I am going to throw this wrench in the machine. My mother smoked *all*of her life including while she was pregos w/ me. I was literally around it all of my life. She smoked *alot* too. Granted my childhood wasnt fantasic and we were quite disfunctional. But I was inhaling 2nd hand smoke and getting nicotine that way. As I reached 16, I was able to buy my own and not sneak hers. It has been studied that 2nd hand smoke can cause preemy labor, low birth weight, etc in utero as well as live birth weights. I wonder how many of us have fallen into that catagory? After all, those of us on the patch, are recv'g the nicotine via bloodstream, and the fetus / baby receives nurishment thru the bloodstream via placenta. Just something to think about. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 9/21/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 8 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 85 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $16 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 0 [B]Hrs:[/B] 18 [B]Mins:[/B] 0 [B]Seconds:[/B] 49
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I think so too, Breaking Free. Marie, I have found that I am calmer in some areas, and in some I seem to be quite angry. Though, the angry areas are ones that I was somewhat angry before, and felt that other people were shoving their will onto me already, and I guess that now I can't drown those feelings in tar and nicotine, I need a way to deel with them. That's what it's all about for me right there, and I just now realised it. Other people shoving their will onto me. Not comunicating their needs to me, or asking for help, but forcing me to behave the way they want me to behave .... or else. Bullies. I'm 37 years old, on my second marriage, had my fifth child, and other people are telling me how to live.. or else. How messed up is that? [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 7/17/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 14 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 775 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $182 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 4 [B]Mins:[/B] 26 [B]Seconds:[/B] 30
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That's it EXACTLY! You hit the nail right ont he head there, phreaknbz. I was mostly passive, and then drowned my anger in nicotine. Now I am blurting out some nasty things that I didn't even know I had inside of me. I really really really feel that this goes way way way beyond the realm of going through withdrawal simptoms. They always say that people who quit smoking become nasty, and i'm sure a part of that can be the fact that we're in physical pain at first, but I also feel that another part of that is that we just can't aford to sit by and take their crap anymore. There's no nicotine to drown their crap in anymore, and it can't just live here. I'm out now reading sites on asertiveness. I googled this topic about a year ago too and all i came across was places to buy books on asertiveness, but there seems to be some deel of online training now. ~Peg PS... If it makes you feel any better, I know where you're at with the upper management thing. That is really a place where the person... not with the best skills, but with the best way of delivering bullcrap, and mind games gets to the top. You have a ton of repsect from me that you got there on skills. Just remember... "Most corporations put people with no skills where they'll be of the best use... management." ;) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 7/17/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 13 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 747 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $169 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 3 [B]Mins:[/B] 29 [B]Seconds:[/B] 3
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Princesses thread about the telemarketer getting an earful led a couple people to ask the exact same questions that i've been asking myself lately. I think that if we work together, brainstorm, and get advise from other assertive people, that we can work our way through this. yes? I think that a huge source of the frustration and anger that I feel in life is due to not being assertive. When I try to speak my mind, then i find that I am met with a really angry person on the other end of the conversation. Here's what I know. I know that people who are not assertive tend to go one of two routes.. Either they are very aggressive (mean) or they wilt and take everything that people send their way, and feel the frustration about it later. Both of those are very typical reasons to smoke, so i think that it's well worth it for us to try and find some sort of place where we can find our way in this world, and have our needs met. I've been doing tons better dealing with my mother and brother, but i'm still having issues with other people... It's mostly irrational people that i'm having issues with. I've had three incidents since I quit smoking, and that's a really high number.. even *I* don't attract this much crap to my life normally. LOL One incident I blew a gasket and i'm OK with it. This was a long time coming, and i finally got to a point where I had enough. I don't feel bad about this at all, and don't think the fact that i quit smoking led to my gasket blowing. It's just that i've been just taking whatever this woman could throw my way for a very long time because I owed her money. It looked like I no longer owed her money and she came after me for some more, and I kind of lost it then. There was another incident involving a man that works for my landlord threatening to have me evicted. Again, I blew. I also went to the landlord with this man's threats, and it was big blown out of proportion deal, and I am feeling very foolish now. Even though i am embarrassed and feel foolish, i still feel that I am in the "right" on this deel, but there's no way to get that across anymore, because I blew a gasket. On top of that, I don't feel that I could get my point across at all while being rational, because we're talking about p
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You make a very good point, Danielle. Choosing if you'll be angry or upset or not in the very beginning is very empowering. That's a tough one, because you are left with an uncomfortble silence for a moment. I guess we used to dig for cigarettes while the agressors stared at us, and now all we can do is breath and stare back while we think it out. In my situation with the guy that worked for the landlord, he walked up the hill to me home and began yelling at me while I was getting the children out of the car. he was agressive. his goal was to make me behave the way he wanted to me behave. At this point, it doesn't matter anymore whether the way he wanted me to behave was right or not. I don't understand why people don't "get" this. had he approached me with "Hey, i was wondering if we could talk and i coudl share with you my reasons for wanting you to drive under 10 miles per hour while going past my house..." Then, i could have shared with him the reasons that i need to get a bit of a run at the hill going up to my house in order to keep my van from sliding on the dirt. We could ahve ome to an understanding, and an agreement all on our own, instead of the landlord having to be involved to come up with the agreement for us. Now i'm still angry about this, and I really need to choose to let it go. Facts are, if the road to my house was properly maintained, then i wouldn't need to get a run at it to begin with, and that's the landlords responsibility. I didn't know it was his responsibility until this disagreement, because he explained to me that he was liable for what happened on his property, and it was his right to set speed limits. Well, i thought these were county roads all along, and the county was the lazy party not grading the road. LOL!! Could I take my landlord on now? Yes, but I have to be prepared for the consequenses, and that's that I am going to be evicted. My landlord is also an attorney, and people around here have tried to take him on before... they are no longer in our town. LOL I think that we all fancy ourselvs like that woman in "Fried Green Tomatoes" that slams into the car of those young girls that swipe her parking spot. "Sorry Girls, i'm older and have more insurance." My husband calls that F*** You mone
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Misty Moon very interesting post. i have always thought that a person has to choose their wars.. Somethings are not worth wasting your breath they just need to be shrugged off. Humour is a great means to relax an otherwise stressful situation. I find I'm calmer since I quit or maybe I don't have any more fight left in me ? who knows, the future will tell, until then. Keep up the good fight one day at a time :) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 6/13/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 47 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 719 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $188 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 6 [B]Hrs:[/B] 7 [B]Mins:[/B] 51 [B]Seconds:[/B] 31

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