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Is a Slip an Accident?


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Excellent plan Billy Bob. Drill those into your mind. Also, think about the situations where you know you are going to be faced with others be drinking and you previously did so plan ahead and rehearse that response and how you are going to handle it. When I would say "No thanks" sometimes people would say "You're not drinking?" If you're not prepared with a response it can catch you off guard and put you on your back foot. If it's one with your buddies it can be awkward and anxious if your not ready for it. I would say "I'm taking a break"... and if asked for an explanation I'd simply say "It's just not working for me right now. And you know what? I actually enjoy not drinking these days". Simple as that. How can they argue? 

Hope this helps. Great work Billy Bob.

All the best,

Dave
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Just logged in to look in my Toolbox and review "Dealing with Desires" and "Saying No Thanks". I need to get these strategies ingrained as a 'knee-jerk' reaction. Today, I am winning!
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TS, Good point about accumulating strategies. I haven't made time to really internalize tools to combat the temptations; situational or due to predisposition. Continuing to see people in this community living victoriously is an incredible encouragement! Thank you
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Hi Billy Bob, 

So you had a slip. Although it was no accident the important thing is that you recognized it for what it was and quit drinking again. Try to cut yourself some slack and thank yourself for being AF for 10 days. You may have noticed that many of us have done exactly what you have done. Most of us have a number of false starts before we really dig our heals in and have accumulated enough strategies to increase our AF days tally. You went for 10 days, tell yourself you'll try to double that this time. Make your goals attainable and you'll save yourself a lot of self loathing. 

Well done on 10 days plus 2. Even with baby steps you'll eventually get to where you want to be.
 
TS
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Feeling pretty crappy... After having been dry for 10 days, a few drinks a couple days ago turned into a few more and blacking out by 4:30 pm. (Only reason I know is because my family told me about it the next day.) Jakelad, I feel responsible for each drink (although it was easier with each one not to say "no".) The reason I feel crappy is for disappointing the family who had been invited over for a meal. Trying to figure out if the feeling is guilt, shame or both. So... Yesterday and today AF.
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Often I would say, I am going to have one drink, 4 hrs later I was smashed. In my mind I intended to have 1 and accidently got Drunker then a boiled monkey. To me the only drink that I am at fault for is the first one. If I choose to have one look out. I would like to know how others keep from taking the first drink? 
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Preparing for an accident is a proactive measure that requires a certain amount of foresight, anticipation,or hindsight. Similar past experiences from both ourselves and others can certainly contributed to our ability to anticipate a certain result when all the leading indicators are aligned. On the reactive side, we need to equip ourselves with every available resource possible, so to minimize the damage and return to pre-accident health. Swig
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Nice thread Swig,

Planning for slips is essential. One way people slip is  by rationalizing their alcohol use. Perhaps they are triggered and they have a bunch of coping strategies ready to combat their trigger but instead of using one of these strategies they start rationalizing. There will always be a reason to drink - for example, "I deserve it, I had a hard day." or " I am so tired, I need something to help me sleep." or "I need it to calm down." etc. etc. Planning for accidents is important behaviourally but also cognitively. How do you prepare for either?

Ashley, Health Educator
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Hi Swig,

This is an incredibly provocative topic and coincidental beyond belief since I worked in the very same field.  Gotta love those audits! I believe that while slips can be misguided they are certainly no accident. A great deal of planning generally goes into taking that first drink whether it be at a party, home alone, at a bar, friends, or even work related. While in certain instances the choice has been hijacked to take that first drink, the second and third have not. As ND pointed out, once you’ve taken that first drink stopping before the second can be a challenge…because now there’s anticipation as to what could be but it’s still a choice. Furthermore, I’m not convinced as Dave suggested that your critical thinking skills could shut down after just one drink…therefore it’s still a choice in my opinion. Now, once you’ve consumed that second drink your critical thinking skills will likely be impacted and you may well start your mission to experience that elusive buzz and well, we know where that will end but it’s no accident.

So what controls can be instituted in order to circumvent such an accident?

1. Establish limits and rehearse saying “no.”
2. Avoid known triggers especially initially.
3. Drink lot’s of water and eat (nutritiously). If you’re sated you’re less likely to drink.
4. Remind yourself of alcohols negative impact.
5. Exercise, meditate/pray, breathe deeply.
6. Have supports you can turn to.
7. Let go of negativity, lose the baggage, think positively and embrace serenity.
8. Reward yourself, love yourself, believe in yourself and empower yourself.
9. Get lots of sleep.
10. Avoid negative people.
 
When you drink, it is no accident, it is a deliberate act.
 
IMO,
TS
 
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Hi Swig,

Interesting topic. Is it accidental that we consumed alcohol? No, nothing accidental about that unless someone spiked your drink without you knowing. If you mean a slip being getting drunk, sure, someone may decide "I'll only have one" then shut off their critical thinking part of their brain and get caught up in the moment with little regard for the consequences. 

Control measures.....excellent question. Looking forward to hearing responses.



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